[PATCH] start-at-boot / userguide

Juan Nin juanin at gmail.com
Thu Sep 1 09:34:41 CEST 2011


See attached patch for adding the start-at-boot directive (smsc group) 
to the Kannel User's Guide.
This was the only missing part so as to get Alejandro Guerrieri's 
start-at-boot patch into the main tree.

Regards,

Juan


On 5/15/11 6:53 AM, Hillel wrote:
> Hi Alejandro,
>
> Have you been able to commit your start-at-boot patch?
>
> thanks
>
> From: Alejandro Guerrieri<aguerrieri at kannel.org>
> To: Alexander Malysh<amalysh at kannel.org>
> Cc: Kannel Devel<devel at vm1.kannel.org>
> Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
> Message-ID:<0357DE26-1F81-4C34-96E7-078482437284 at kannel.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Thanks Alex,
>
> I'll write the userguide part and commit.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
> --
> Alejandro Guerrieri
> aguerrieri at kannel.org
>
>
>
> On 19/04/2011, at 11:52, Alexander Malysh wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> IMHO this option is not really needed and is only workaround about a fact
> that bearerbox
>> is unable to reload configuration without restart. But reload is much
> bigger implementation as
>> this simple "hack". If this "hack" will help much people to do cleaner
> configuration now then I'm
>> not voting against this feature.
>>
>> Alex, please update userguide and commit this patch if nobody has any
> objections.
>> I'm +0
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alexander Malysh
>>
>> Am 19.04.2011 um 10:49 schrieb Alejandro Guerrieri:
>>
>>> For KISS's sake, this doesn't clutter configuration nor breaks backwards
> compatibility. It doesn't hurt performance either.
>>> If you don't want to use it just ignore it completely, the default
> behavior if the directive is missing is to start the smsc at boot as usual,
> so no harm's done.
>>> Where do we trace the "absolutely necessary" line is of course fuzzy, but
> from what I read seems like other users would find it useful as well.
>>> Regards,
>>> --
>>> Alejandro Guerrieri
>>> aguerrieri at kannel.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/04/2011, at 05:19, Nikos Balkanas wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> wapbox must be kept around because of backwards compatibility, that is a
> must for all open source software. Users are still using it.
>>>> Finally I would like to add my support for keeping configuration
> explosion in check. Otherwise, what a few people might gain in convenience,
> a lot of people might have to pay for it in terms of kannel support due to
> more difficult configuration. Some golden rules in configuration are:
>>>> 1) KISS
>>>> 2) Don't expand it, unless it is absolutely necessary.
>>>>
>>>> Stopping service to modify configuration is a no-no. Commenting a
> configuration file off-line is convenience.
>>>> My 2 cents,
>>>> Nikos
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Nin
>>>> To: Kannel Devel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's what we do today, but the idea is not to have to do any "extra"
> work, neither having to comment/uncomment things out, nor have to add/remove
> config files.
>>>>
>>>> Having the start-at-boot directive allows you to just keep the
> configuration defined, but the smsc does not start.
>>>> So anytime you need it, you just use the start-smsc and then the
> stop-smsc.
>>>> This is much cleaner IMHO than having to do all the extra manual work,
> no matter how easy that manual work it may be.
>>>>
>>>> A similar discussion was held some months ago, can't remember what new
> directive it was, where the directive was finally added, since it was seen
> it was helpful.
>>>> Not all directives are used by everyone or may be useful for everybody,
> that happens on any piece of software, but does not mean it's not useful,
> nor that it should not be added. I don't care about the WAP related parts of
> Kannel for example, and that doesn't mean I believe they should not exist.
> Adding useful things to Kannel is something that makes Kannel a better
> product, so I don't really see why not to add it. Maybe if it was something
> complicated that really messed up with the code, could be, but this is
> definitely not the case.
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/4/18 Nikos Balkanas<nbalkanas at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> What about the HTTP command start-smsc:
>>>>
>>>> It reloads the smsc and starts them from configuration. Therefore you
> could have the smsc commented out at start, then enable it in the
> configuration and start it from the web interface, without stooping kannel.
> Is that not adequate?
>>>> BR,
>>>> Nikos
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Gottgens"
> <thomas at ist.schuldig.de>
>>>> To: "Alvaro Cornejo"<cornejo.alvaro at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "Alexander Malysh"<amalysh at vm1.kannel.org>; "Kannel Devel"
> <devel at vm1.kannel.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:24 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> i second that. Having the ability to start kannel with some of the binds
> down
>>>> is so much easier in HA/Failover environments.
>>>>
>>>> Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:31:05 PM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> AC>  Hi Alex
>>>>
>>>> AC>  Another use would be when having backup links. I do use over 20
> modems
>>>> AC>  but not have all enabled at start. In order to not to have to reload
>>>> AC>  kannel when a new modem is needed, I do start kannel and then stop
> all
>>>> AC>  the backup modems and I have to do the same whenever I restart
> kannel
>>>> AC>  or the server
>>>>
>>>> AC>  I'll love to have this feature in standard kannel
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Thomas                            mailto:thomas at ist.schuldig.de
>>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
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